[identity profile] paradoox.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
Does anyone have any experience with paying a parking ticket in person at the parking office in Davis Square with say $50 worth of quarters?    (unrolled)   I'm not quite mean enough to show up with $50 worth of pennies (and really don't want to spend the time sitting there while they are counted), but I want to make a statement.  I'll all honesty, I'd pay by credit card if Somerville didn't charge an extra fee (Boston doesn't).    Yes, I could mail in a check but there is no satisfaction in that.     Parking enforcement in Somerville has jumped the shark and it is time for some civil disobedience.  

Date: 2010-05-02 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
You will annoy everyone behind you in line.

Date: 2010-05-02 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-chance.livejournal.com
You might have a nice little chat with the ladies who work behind the counter before you decide to try this tactic. They're really generally pretty nice people who have kind of crappy jobs.

Wouldn't it be more efficient to pay the ticket with a check or ten-dollar bills, and then in the time you have remaining (that you would have spent standing there in the parking office, waiting for Dot to count your quarters) write your own letter to the mayor; rather than try to induce the people waiting behind you in line to do so?

Date: 2010-05-02 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tastyanagram.livejournal.com
This. If I were behind someone in line who was paying their $50 parking ticket in quarters, I'd be more likely to apologize to the person at the desk after they were gone rather than calling the mayor...about...what now?

Date: 2010-05-02 04:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] perspicuity.livejournal.com
sounds like the point? revenues via parking enforcement are a bit lame.

i hope the businesses are keeping track of the increase or decrease in their businesses and how they are impacted.

if they are making MORE money with the turn over, then that committee did the right thing, right?

and if they are making LESS, well, then it didn't.

from some posts i've been reading, some of the businesses have been impacted more than a bit. if so, they'll make their concerns known.

me? i largely took my business elsewhere. parking tax? fooey. i miss my diesel coffee, but the risk of running afoul the parking vultures is too great.

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Date: 2010-05-02 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
recently i was turned away from a local liquor store buying something like an $8 or less bottle of wine with (pre-counted) quarters. because i was poor and just wanted to not think about being poor god dammit, not to be an asshole. (the boss of this place really had a bug up his ass for no reason, but i digress.)

i realize you're doing this to make a statement though, and i don't know if it's different for a public office type thing vs. a private shop, but just a heads up in case they turn you away, have some other form of payment on you if you want to pay that day.

Date: 2010-05-02 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] docorion.livejournal.com
Knock yourself out, but the clerk can, in fact, refuse the payment. An older US statute notes that "Minor coins of the US are legal tender for any amount not exceeding 25 cents in one payment"; and there is case law noting that even offices of government may make such rules as they deem necessary for the efficient functioning of the office, such as (for instance) refusing to accept pennies as payment. You may find this website (http://www.mtas.tennessee.edu/KnowledgeBase.nsf/0/AB04FB8C07985FEC852570310052C341?OpenDocument) instructive in the matter.

ETA: and refusing the form of payment doesn't cancel the debt or obligation. Sorry.
Edited Date: 2010-05-02 05:17 am (UTC)

Go with pennies

Date: 2010-05-02 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spettacolo.livejournal.com
$50 in quarters is 5 rolls of quarters. You can hold that in one hand. Unrolled, it would take maybe 2 minutes to count out. Pennies would make a much larger statement.

Date: 2010-05-02 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-custard.livejournal.com
That 'statement' will only serve to frustrate the person behind the counter who is just doing a job in this bad economy and probably has nothing to do with you getting a ticket. Trust, they will not pass on the 'statement' to the magic parking gods.

Please do like someone else said and use the extra time you'd have lost by writing a letter, or come up with some other way to protest whatever you think is unfair about Somerville parking. I'm pretty sure that if you decide to do this annoying act, it will annoy everyone around you and probably yourself as well when you realize it is not as satisfying as it sounds.

Did you get the ticket for something you did wrong (were there signs posted and you disobeyed them?) or was it in your eyes a wrongful ticket? If it is wrongful, appeal it. If it's not, pay your fee in an adult way and work positively in some way to get the laws changed if you do not like them.

Go for it

Date: 2010-05-02 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photolight1.livejournal.com
Recently when going through the toll booth I gave the guy some quarters and about 5 pennies...He looked at them and said 'thanks a lot' with an attitude.
I say go for it but you should have them rolled with so many.
It's legal money , why make their job easier? The parking dept doesn't make it easy for the working people of this city.

do I sound bitter? You betcha.

Date: 2010-05-02 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photolight1.livejournal.com
Could not find an edit button..,

I also meant to add I just recently found out that Somerville has extended their meters to 8pm.
Is this city wide? Massachusetts in general is becoming such a difficult place to live.
I normally don't use meters in Somerville since I have the sticker but I thought I only had to put up with this in Boston not Somerville.
Hell of a way to make revenue for the city.

Date: 2010-05-02 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretlyironic.livejournal.com
The 8PM meters are just in Davis & Magoun Squares. Basically, where the parking is tight, when the parking is tight, they use meters. It's totally logical, and it's not an unreasonable fee. If I were in charge, I'd allow longer stretches of parking (4 hours, say?) but the hours and charges are not unreasonable.

Also, FYI, if you don't like parking tickets, here are two simple tips to avoid getting them:
* Learn the rules
* Follow them

I know that's not as fun as whining about it on DSLJ, but seriously, "ZOMG I HATE THE PARKING PEOPLE" has been a lengthy and tiresome subject every month or so for the past... five years?

Date: 2010-05-02 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photolight1.livejournal.com
1. I don't have time to reply to the last part of your post except to say it's not always that cut and dry.
I'm not referring to an unpaid meter.


2.The metersI was referring to were in effect to 8pm in Union Square. That's where I found out about it. So maybe city wide now?

Date: 2010-05-02 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photolight1.livejournal.com
I also meant to add since discovering this in Union I was in ball square and the meters said in effect till 8 so I think it is city wide. I agree with you the meters in some places should be more than 2 hours.

It may be satisfying to you, but....

Date: 2010-05-02 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ringrose.livejournal.com
Fifty dollars in unrolled quarters. That's 200 quarters. I'm making a few guesses here, but...

They go to the person behind the counter at the parking office, who counts them. Someone else probably counts them at the end of the shift to verify the drawer has the right amount of money. It gets taken to the bank and counted again by someone at the bank.

None of those people set the parking fees.


http://www.break.com/index/8800-penny-prank.html

Re: It may be satisfying to you, but....

Date: 2010-05-02 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] photolight1.livejournal.com
But they work for those that do....

Date: 2010-05-02 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pushupstairs.livejournal.com
This would be roughly as effective as complaining about the implementation of the MCAS exams to your local elementary school's janitor.

What you're suggesting isn't civil disobedience. Since you're paying the parking ticket that you've been ordered to pay, it's more like civil obedience while mumbling something incoherent under your breath as you walk away. An effective civil disobedience in this case would involve not paying the ticket while making some kind of useful and interesting statement about the current state of parking enforcement.

Date: 2010-05-02 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthling.livejournal.com
"uncivil obedience"?

Yes!

Date: 2010-05-02 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yagagriswold.livejournal.com
ding ding ding!

Date: 2010-05-04 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rethcir.livejournal.com
Pissing in the wind.

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