[personal profile] ron_newman posting in [community profile] davis_square
after the university announced that it would not begin construction there for at least 15 years.

Somerville Times article
Wicked Local/Somerville Journal article

from the Times article: "Next week, a community meeting originally planned to continue discussions of the Tufts proposal will now instead offer the community an opportunity to discuss this news as well as next steps. The meeting will be held on Wednesday, March 26, at 6:30 p.m., at the TAB Building, 169 Holland St."

Date: 2014-03-20 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somervilleguy.livejournal.com
Glad that tufts is gone from this process. Also amazingly arrogant that they would buy a property and let it sit for 15 years. Does show the true contempt they have for the city.

Date: 2014-03-20 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] courtney o'keefe (from livejournal.com)
I'm with you, Ron. I'm very confused as to why they need that amount of time to develop. Then again, they just started a large project on the corner of Harvard Street and Boston Avenue in Medford that stood vacant and in disrepair for many years.

Date: 2014-03-20 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravingwanderer.livejournal.com
That building wasn't vacant; it was occupied (I don't know how much) by mostly woodworkers and other craft businesses who need large spaces to work. My piano tuner used to have his shop there, and was kicked out, apparently on relatively short notice (presumably by commercial lease standards). (The tenants knew Tufts was going to do something with it eventually.)

Date: 2014-03-21 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] courtney o'keefe (from livejournal.com)
I see, but still don't understand why they would need 15 years for the Powder House School.

Date: 2014-03-21 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achinhibitor.livejournal.com
I don't know the details, but presumably Tufts thought at the time that they would be able to do something useful with it. Later, they decided that they couldn't, or had better things to do, or something. So they're giving the property up.

Fortunately, Somerville hadn't just sold them the property outright, and has the ability to reclaim it and put it into the hands of another developer.

As for what actually went wrong, there's no way to tell from the outside. But usually this sort of thing means that whatever the developer was planning on selling/renting the property for is no longer paying nearly as well as it was when the developer started the project. Sometimes it means that the city has narrow ideas regarding what the property should be used for, and the developer can't figure out how to make a profit within those limits. In this case, perhaps Tufts wanted it for Tufts offices, but Somerville wanted some use that could be taxed.

Date: 2014-03-20 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benign-cremator.livejournal.com
Seems to me that their right hand has no more awareness of the left then any other large institution. Once you start looking at larger organizations in any detail, you see this all the time. That, and that they are bulls in the urban China shop.

Date: 2014-03-21 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clevernonsense.livejournal.com
Yale, Harvard, Northeastern, and Columbia have all been sitting on prime-ish real estate of much larger sizes for similar periods of time (and that's just what I know from some professional connctions). I have a feeling this is fairly status quo for major universities--I think in part they just want to expand and gain control of all available nearby real estate.

Props to Somerville for pushing this forward.

Date: 2014-03-20 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] courtney o'keefe (from livejournal.com)
Hi Ron,

Is the address for the TAB building correct? I always thought it was 167 Holland.

Date: 2014-03-21 02:59 pm (UTC)
jicama: (beard)
From: [personal profile] jicama
Two alternate proposals by Davis Square Partners and Diamond Sinacori were also recommended alongside Tufts’ proposal for final consideration by the mayor.

Here's the committee's report: http://www.somervillema.gov/sites/default/files/PHCS%20Report.pdf

I'm disappointed that the proposal with the most housing was disqualified primarily for that reason. But given the rampant NIMBYs in Union Square lately and the cited 2009 experience, I can't really blame the committee.

Date: 2014-03-22 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretlyironic.livejournal.com
Some additional housing is better than none.

When someone says "it'll all be expensive luxe etc" my response is: 500 yuppies want to move into your neighborhood. They will pay $500/month more than you pay now. Do you want them to take your lease, or lease a new building down the road?"

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