[identity profile] cemeterygates.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
1. What gyms are available in the Davis and Porter areas? I am not interested in Healthworks (not a fan of their gender-specific facilities, reverse sexism is sooo fifteen years ago), but I'm otherwise open to any suggestions.

2. I also need somewhere to get a decently priced professional massage in the area. Suggestions?

Thank you!

Masseuse

Date: 2004-03-04 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rojagato.livejournal.com
I'm not sure where [livejournal.com profile] goat's new office is, but she might have some recommendations if she herself is too far away.

Date: 2004-03-04 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sissychrissy1.livejournal.com
Boston Shiatsu (http://www.bostonshiatsu.org/), right in Porter, offers a variety of services and has both professional and qualified student massages (at a discount rate).

Date: 2004-03-04 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlistener.livejournal.com
I'm a massage therapist practicing near Davis. My distinctions: I listen very well, I work in the areas and manner that my clients are asking for, and I give a great massage.

I have a licensed private practice at 1234 Broadway (a couple minutes walk west of Teele Square). Rate is $75 for an ~80 minute session, of which ~60 minutes is time on the table. I graduated from the Muscular Therapy Institute in 2000 and have a background in counselling.

There's other readers here who could recommend me. :-)

Date: 2004-03-04 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queue.livejournal.com
I definitely recommend [livejournal.com profile] mattlistener.

Date: 2004-03-04 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enochs-fable.livejournal.com
1. There's a Workout World on Boston Ave. It's a ways down Boston Ave, but you can take the 94 which goes right by it.

2. Massage Therapy Works in Davis Square. (http://www.massagetherapyworks.com/directions2.html)

Date: 2004-03-04 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lidiya6.livejournal.com
I can recommend the following massage therapists:

Kathleen McGilvray 1025 Massachusetts Avenue, Arlington
Tel: 781.640.6450 Email: [email protected]

Rick Howt http://www.jomta.org/clinicians/rhowt.jsp

and Flavia Graf http://www.jomta.org/clinicians/fgraf.jsp

and David Hammond at Tuttle Muscular Therapy in Watertown http://www.tmtonline.com/

Date: 2004-03-04 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cobweb.livejournal.com
Even though you aren't interested, I must say that Healthworks is totally amazing. I just rejoined after having been gone for about 6 months. My other gym didn't even compare.

Date: 2004-03-04 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-reserve.livejournal.com
i also <3 healthworks.

as a radical feminist, i don't buy "reverse sexism" just like i don't buy "reverse racism." to exert sexism (or any -ism) you need to have the power to control ... women still don't have any major power to control much in this country.

i also believe in the rights of minority groups to declare blank-only space as a retreat from a discriminatory world.

Date: 2004-03-04 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catalyst.livejournal.com
     any judgement about who is being discriminated against and to what degree is always subjective. there is very little place for subjective judgements in public policy, and absolutely none in anything that involves restricting the rights of some segment of the population. any attempt to mandate a right for each person to *feel* the way they want (in the absence of any objective measure of harm) about every aspect of their world is circular, morally vacuous, and ludicrously unenforceable.

     as healthworks is not a public institution, it has a right to refuse service to anyone for whatever reason they wish. but this is morally indistinguishable from keeping black folks out of country clubs, and for any society to protect one choice more or less then the other is the height of hypocrisy.

Date: 2004-03-05 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sasha-bee.livejournal.com
I go to the Healthworks in Boston, and actually I kind of like that it's all women. It's not a meat market the way some coed gyms are (at least not a straight one :-) ) and I noticed that a lot of women seemed intimidated by the all- or mostly-male free weight areas in coed gyms, whereas at Healthworks it's all for us and everybody feels comfortable to do whatever they want. The women are there for themselves, not to flirt, which is kind of nice to see. I also went to an all-women's college so the all-women environment is one that I'm used to. As for discrimination, there are soooo many gyms around that I doubt anyone could really complain. There's even an all-male gym in the South End, so guys have their own thing if they want it.

Date: 2004-03-06 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blowtorch-betty.livejournal.com
The thing that cracks me up about Healthworks is that I know a lot of women go there specifically not to be leered at but I'd say you're much more likely to get checked out there than at a regular gym!

I wanted to go there because it's so nice but I also wanted to be able to go with my husband from time to time so we go to Bally instead. It's the Kmart of gyms but it works.

Date: 2004-03-04 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cowgrrl.livejournal.com
I'm also looking for a gym. There's Bally's in the Porter Exchange building. I used to go there, hated the place.

I loved Healthworks, other than it being too crowded frequently, and it was pricey.

There's a new "Curves" that opened on Cedar Street (near Broadway) but that's also women-only. I phoned them and their recording was ALL about weight loss, every word of it. Made me really angry.

And that's all I know about. I'm considering rejoining Healthworks. *sigh* :(

Bally's

Date: 2004-03-05 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cowgrrl.livejournal.com
1. Their marketing tactics. They insist you MUST sign a three year contract. The smallest amount of time you can sign up for is a year (they don't tell you this, you have to ask and be insistent) and to get that year you have to pay for it up front all in advance. That's what I did and I'm so glad I wasn't suckered into 3 years.

2. Machines in frequent disrepair.

3. Frequent announcements over the PA system telling us about all the great nutritional products we could buy in their store. ("Attention K-Mart Customers!" Yeah, kind of like that!)

4. Freezing cold locker room.

5. Cold hallway from locker room to pool/hottub/sauna area.

6. Boiling hot hottub and the staff didn't give a damn that the hot tub was too hot for anything but boiling lobsters.

7. Sauna is made of metal (ugh!) and it's in the mixed gender area so you have to wear a bathing suit in it.

One time I was so cold there (yes I chill easily, I'm very thin) that I hopped into the sauna fully clothed, to give myself a minute to warm up. And someone on the staff yelled at me and made me get out!

Re: Bally's

Date: 2004-03-06 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blowtorch-betty.livejournal.com
I agree with all the comments about their marketing strategies, there's even a web site devoted to all the lawsuits agains Bally, I think it's ballysucks.com or something similar.

If you can handle the hard sell and not cave in it's actually not a horrible place. They've got some new equipment and the facilities though a little old are kept very clean. As for the constant PA announcements I've noticed a distinct drop off in the last year or so.

I'm quite happy there, it's very basic but when I go I go to work out, not be pampered. Working out is a tough, sweaty business and as long as they have the equipment I need one place is as good as the next.

Often I'm the only female in the free weights area but this doesn't bother me at all, I've never had a problem with the guys, they've always been polite and courteous and for the most part leave me alone.

We did the three year deal because we knew we'd be here that long and the plus side is that after it's over you pay a pittance for basically the rest of your life. I think we pay either $7 or $9 a month each now that the three years are up.

As I said elsewhere it's the Kmart of gyms, it does what it's supposed to do and nothing more.

I do wish they had a towel service though, it's really my only gripe.

Date: 2004-03-04 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-reserve.livejournal.com
i wouldn't give curves the time of day let alone a single penny.

further fatphobia + being part of the diet industry = not good.

Date: 2004-03-04 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikva.livejournal.com
Actually, the Curves on Cedar Street doesn't push the diet plan at all. They like you to show up three times a week, and that's it. If you really want to, you can get the diet books or whatever through them, but they've never even mentioned the eating plan to me. And most of the women there are fairly Rubenesque soccer moms. :)

This particular franchise (and the new one by Assy Square) is owned by two rather nice, supportive women, at least one of whom is a bit curvy herself.

When I had the entrance interview, they asked me for two reasons why I wanted to join BESIDES losing weight and getting in shape. I thought that was pretty cool. It wasn't all about the weight loss.

They do weigh and measure you, but only once a month, and they also check your body fat percentage, so if you gain muscle, that's cool with them.

I go there specifically because it doesn't get into the whole skinny gym bunny thing. You don't have to be a body builder or an athlete. It's just these regular women. I lack athletic talent or inclination completely, so it works very well for me.

YMMV, of course.

Date: 2004-03-05 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-reserve.livejournal.com
They do weigh and measure you

that alone completey repulses me.

Date: 2004-03-05 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cowgrrl.livejournal.com
Tthey need to do something about their PR, which was ENTIRELY about weight loss. It really upset me, and did not make me feel like I would be at all welcome there, as a thin woman. Do any thin women go there? Am I likely to be harrassed by the clientele? (It wouldn't be the first time, believe me...) I'd still consider this because it's a five minute walk from my home, and the idea of a half-hour program really appeals to me.

Date: 2004-03-04 01:52 pm (UTC)
jadelennox: Senora Sabasa Garcia, by Goya (Default)
From: [personal profile] jadelennox
Bally's, if you get the right deal, can be very very cheap. (less then $100/year is what I pay, though that kind of deal takes some doing.) And they have a pool.

They're scuzzy, but cheap.

Dorea D'Agostino, in Central, does $55/hour massages and is fantastic.

Date: 2004-03-04 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talonvaki.livejournal.com
Dorea's a friend of mine...I have yet to get a massage from her, but I can vouch for her personally...

I get $25 student massages where she took classes, MITA. It's on Rindge off of Mass Ave., just up from Porter. They're quite good, for students.

Date: 2004-03-04 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlistener.livejournal.com
That would be the MTI. (Muscular Therapy Institute).

I've gotten some student massages there too -- a couple quite good, a couple quite disappointing.

Bally's

Date: 2004-03-06 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adrian-turtle.livejournal.com
Bally's has really disturbing marketing practices. I joined a few years ago, because I wanted to go to the same gym where my housemates (who had joined Bally's in another city) and several of my other friends worked out. When you start checking out Bally's membership policies and pricing, you should remember that they are owned by a CASINO franchise. They make a lot of their money by gambling and deception, more than by providing a service.

There are some good things to say about Bally's. If you like a big, relatively impersonal, health club, it might suit you. (They're not going to weigh you, or push you to do anything. They'll mostly ignore you, when they're not pushing you to buy supplements or renew your membership.) The location in Porter Square is right by the T, and has a pool and sauna. Consider location, and who else belongs to a particular gym...having a buddy to work out with can be worth a lot.

Their salespeople would be happy to show you around and give you a hard sell, explaining why you need to pay up front for a 3 year contract before you can have their low monthly rates for the rest of your life. Don't buy *anything* yet. Lots of people pay the upfront fee, and then quit before the 3 years are over. Maybe they don't like it, or they get hurt. Maybe they move to where Bally's doesn't have gyms. Someone who bought a membership and isn't using it anymore can transfer it to you. Look on Ebay. You'll probably pay 50-60% what Bally's is charging.

Re: Bally's

Date: 2004-03-06 07:49 pm (UTC)
jadelennox: Senora Sabasa Garcia, by Goya (Default)
From: [personal profile] jadelennox
Oh, definitely. We went in having made a mutual pact to get no more than a year contract and no extras.

Date: 2004-03-05 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzbottom.livejournal.com
There's a place over in the Fresh Pond shopping center that gives good, reasonably priced (I think) massages. Not sure the name, though.

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