[identity profile] masswich.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
This may seem like a Union Square issue, but the Green Line extension is actually supposed to go all the way to Medford Hillside (and possibly further) so it really effects folks over here near Davis.

The Governor is proposing another delay in building the Green Line to Somerville and Medford, from 2014 to 2016. The argument is that the state can seek federal funding to help build the project that way. The problem is that the state already has 2-3 projects it is asking the feds to fund out of the same pot, so getting federal money seems unlikely.

This is a state-agreed project provided as mitigation for the traffic and air quality problems the Big Dig brought to Somerville and if state funding is needed to bring it in on time, so be it. The project has already been delayed from 2001 to 2014 for no particularly good reason other than the state didn't want to pay to build it. If another delay bothers you, check out the STEP web site for more info on how to let the state know you're upset: www.somervillestep.org

Date: 2007-08-10 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
While I want a Green Line connector, I do think this has to be approached realistically to be effective.


Point one: it's all well and good to say "if state funding is needed to bring it in on time, so be it." But the state kinda has to find the funds. It's not like Patrick can just jack up the sales tax for the entire state because a group of Bostonians want a public works project. We're talking $600 million here, and if the Big Dig has taught us anything, it's that it's going to cost a whole lot more. Add to this that Patrick is basically pretending he has all the money he needs already (which, by the way, is a VERY bad sign and indicates Romney left a bigger mess behind than we thought), and that's a pretty big budgetary rock to push up a hill.


Point two: "for no particularly good reason other than the state didn't want to pay to build it." It's unfair to tag Patrick with Romney's baggage, and doing so will get you ignored. I have no doubt any delays incurred by Romney were entirely for political reasons, because his decisions on how to run the state were entirely based on how it'd look in Presidential primaries. Patrick is, I'm pretty sure, sympathetic, but making out like it's his fault for what the last guy did is not going to get you any points.

Date: 2007-08-10 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
Complaints are sometimes effective. But to be really successful in getting what you want, it's best to work with the folks you want to help you out, and help them out by coming up with ways to make it work.

So how do we make this happen? Where should the money come from that doesn't jeopardize other necessary and good projects? When you figure that out, tell Patrick, and us too, so we can all work together to make it happen.

Date: 2007-08-10 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heliograph.livejournal.com
They could fund it with a bond issue.

As the original poster suggested, the problem isn't really with funding. It is a political will issue. While people say they'd like it, nobody's going to march over it, or a fun run, or sponsor a citizen initiative to get it on the ballot.

This can only really be punched through by savvy local politicians who recognize the long term economic benefit to their community.

The failure falls squarely on the local pols that are supposed to represent us.

Date: 2007-08-10 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Actually, I'm not sure the Commonwealth's credit is so hot right now. And it doesn't help we're suing everyone who worked on the Big Dig.

I think the most effective thing would be appealling to the Conservation Law Foundation to go to court and get a hard deadline in place. If it really is political will that's the problem, that'll take care of it. If it's financial, then the real problems will come out and they can be dealt with.

Date: 2007-08-11 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aki.livejournal.com
*groan* The CLF. I'm sorry, my only knowledge of them is trying to block a highway in my hometown (by creating 11, ELEVEN, rotaries in Vermont where drivers can't even handle a rotary in a shopping center) and trying to block lane expansion of I93 between the Mass border and Manchester. I just... they make me angry.

Date: 2007-08-12 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
I used to live in VT, and when the rotary went in in Brattleboro? It worked. The bellyaching is just because people don't want to change.

Anyway, the CLF got the extension in the first place, so let them deal with it.

Green Line Extension - making it happen

Date: 2007-08-17 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fefie.livejournal.com
Together we can ;) Complaints are part of the process. Squeaky wheel etc. The STEP website has info on calling or emailing Gov. Patrick's office. As for other things happening besides public outcry, also posted on the STEP listserv was a link to an article yesterday on how Somerville's legislative delegation is working on this: Somerville-Medford delegation braced for fight on Green Line (http://www.townonline.com/somerville/homepage/x1662565166)

On today's BlueMass Group blog is a post giving a good concise history of how this project, this legal commitment, has been pushed aside since 1990: (http://www.bluemassgroup.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8270#82369)

(LJ newbie here - hope the links work...)

Date: 2007-08-10 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Actually, politicans ignore strident people all the time. There are so many strident people that as far as they're concerned, it's white noise.

This is because most strident people I've met don't get how government actually works, and most bureaucrats assume (often correctly) that these people will never, in any way, shape or form, be satisfied.

Dedication to a cause is great, but who would you be more likely to talk to, a passionate but calm person or somebody who doesn't understand your job?

Date: 2007-08-10 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derekp.livejournal.com
This is the state screwing over Somerville once again. "We need permission to dig a giant clusterf*** of a tunnel in Boston. Let's just promise them some more T-Stops." Is there anyone out there who thinks this will honestly ever happen? How about before 2020? It's all well and good for the state to route thousands of cars through Somerville every day, but they have no interest in paying the piper for it.

Hey, guess what else - the area needs a new jail. Care to guess where they want to put that? You got it!

Maybe Deval could have spent less on his drapes and his SUV and chipped in some more to public transport, eh? His budget of less than $30m is a frigging disgrace.

Date: 2007-08-10 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rethcir.livejournal.com
Link to email the governor's office: http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=gov3utilities&sid=Agov3&U=Agov3_contact_us

Date: 2007-08-10 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dirtyknees.livejournal.com
The problem is that the state already has 2-3 projects it is asking the feds to fund out of the same pot

Which projects are these, by the way?

Date: 2007-08-11 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aki.livejournal.com
Pffft. We all know that the Urban Ring is an urban myth.

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