[identity profile] boblothrope.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
I'm getting a little overwhelmed by all the groupon-type posts here. It's great that folks are sharing money-saving tips for local businesses, but I think we might be reaching a saturation point.

What if we created a davis_coupons community, and asked people to post these deals there and not here?
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Date: 2010-09-27 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bombardiette.livejournal.com
I like this idea. It seems like 90% or more of the posts lately are for sales or groupons and it's definitely feeling more like a sales comm than anything these days.

Date: 2010-09-28 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com
actually, 9% of posts from Monday to Monday of the last week have been for voucher sites. Just to clarify.

So I thought I'd check further. Before last tuesday, the previous post about a voucher site had been on the 10th. There were 3 that day; one mentioning Lyndell's, and the other, from me, giving away a $50 Johnny D's door card, and someone else selling their MetroRock groupon-acquired card. And someone posted about a Zing! pizza deal on the 3rd (not in davis, but close and they deliver to DS).

so. That's 8 posts in the DS-lj about groupons or other voucher sites. 5 were heads up about offers (and yeah, 4 were posted by me, one, the zing! one, by m_b_w), 3 were offers of already purchased sites (one of which was a gift).

Out of 132 posts. That's 6% of the posts in the last month.

Is this really meriting a discussion of over 60 posts? It's own community? I feel silly even needing to have looked up all these stats for people...I was working today (for a change) and came home to find you'd all gone nuts.

It's NOT worth it's own community. It's not even worth this discussion, IMHO.



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Or, here.

Date: 2010-09-27 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shana-lyons.livejournal.com
It's kind of nice to have everything in one place vs. having to check two communities. If we're voting, I'd vote for not diluting the traffic and keeping stuff here. As long as the businesses are local, it feels relevant to me. Just MHO.
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Re: Or, here.

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Date: 2010-09-27 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I tend to agree but don't want to make a moderator decision by myself. What do others think?

Date: 2010-09-27 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greyling.livejournal.com
As long as it's Davis Square related, I don't mind the posts. Groupons for Brattle Theater? Sure. I don't mind.

I did (mentally) question whether or not an earlier post about the best bus service from Boston -> NYC belonged in the Davis Square community - but it kicked up some nice discussion, people were friendly, and I suppose one off-topic post doesn't hurt the community too much.

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Date: 2010-09-27 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gandalfgreyhame.livejournal.com
I also like this idea.

Date: 2010-09-27 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justjess.livejournal.com
I'd rather keep it all in one place, but I'll support the majority.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealestate.livejournal.com
I like this idea as well. Even though I've benefitted from them, I kinda wish the sites didn't do referral bonuses, because then most of those links would not get posted here.
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Date: 2010-09-27 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duffless2323.livejournal.com
I've felt bad for the people who've almost apologized because they get the referral bonus. In my mind it's a win win, i get my groupon type thing and my neighbor gets hooked up. There are now so many groupon type things, I only am a member at groupon so it's useful for me to see the other ones here like buy with me etc and I think that happens because of the referrals.

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Date: 2010-09-27 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eclecticavatar.livejournal.com
I think that a lot of us already receive emails to our personal email accounts from Groupon, BuyWithMe and all the other services that offer these discounts.

I'm more likely to go in for the deal that way than by seeing someone's shared post here on LJ. A separate community for folks that don't want to personally join those services through their email might be a good idea.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehlunchbox.livejournal.com
Why not avoid them altogether. As Eclectic stated, if you want to get notified about the awesome groupon and buywithme coupons in the davis area, be proactive and go subscribe to the sites yourself. It'll take you less time to check an email than scan through a post.

Granted, I view this blog through Google Reader, so it takes me no time at all to ignore it. But honestly, you could just fend for yourselves and sign up with these sites if it's something you enjoy seeing. Leave this blog for people's free stuff, local news, information, cop stories, etc.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bercilakslady.livejournal.com
I don't mind having the coupon posts be here.

I agree

Date: 2010-09-27 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenbear.livejournal.com
I get the emails already, I'd rather not have to see it all twice.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derekp.livejournal.com
If coupons were removed then that'd leave a community full of airplane noise, missing cats, and rooms for rent. No thanks.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dcltdw
This.

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I like them here

Date: 2010-09-27 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duffless2323.livejournal.com
I like the groupons being posted here. I've not found the traffic overwhelming, as there aren't a ton of posts each day.

I mostly read via rss/google reader and find it easy to skip past what doesn't interest me. I vote for keeping them on this community.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
How about just a rule when coupons/sales are under a cut. Makes it a one-line post.

They're not usually relevant to me either, but sometimes it's good to know.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] siderea
Actually, I'd love to see the groupon posts moved to another comm for all Davis Square sales promotions, specials, and weekly arts offerings, and for more local business to post regularly there. I'd love it if we had a comm where Johnny D's would post their brunch specials and upcoming acts, and The Somerville their movies and shows, and Golden Light their daily lunch special, and McKinnons their weekly sale items, and, and, and...

But I really don't want to see this comm become all-ads. It would need to be a separate space, so discussion and questions didn't get marginalized, and so people can opt into them differently.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:52 pm (UTC)
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+1

Date: 2010-09-27 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rufinia.livejournal.com
I don't mind them here. They've been, mostly, "I have a groupon that expiring, can't use it, anyone want it?" Which is completely different from being told what the groupon is today.

Date: 2010-09-27 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
heh, should have read all the comments first. this. and much more succinct than my reply :)

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Date: 2010-09-27 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenixy.livejournal.com
It seems like most of the groupon posts have been people trying to unload ones that they've bought, not general announcements, so that isn't duplicating the main groupon mailing list; I think they're more akin to yard sale announcements.

There are plenty of other posts that are frequent and that most people don't care about and that whose who do care about could easily learn of by subscribing to a mailing list or Facebook feed and I don't see what makes groupon special in that regard.

Date: 2010-09-27 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josephineave.livejournal.com
That's what I have noticed. Unless we want to start banishing all "for sale" posts to a separate comm, we might have to live with them. Original Groupon-type posts have been fairly limited (though I'm sure they will pick up as penetration of the market - and consumer trust -- improve).

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Date: 2010-09-27 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealestate.livejournal.com
I created [livejournal.com profile] davis_deals if people want to start using it. If we decide as a whole that it'd be a good idea, it's there, anyway. No moderation except for clear abuse.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-27 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] preraphaelite.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think the resales are okay, but the here's a groupon that's interesting posts are annoying.

Sign up for groupon if you want to read about groupons.

Date: 2010-09-27 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duffless2323.livejournal.com
Your annoying is my useful.

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Date: 2010-09-27 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anotherjen.livejournal.com
I don't mind the posts. Sometimes they function as a reminder. I do wish there were more posts about more interesting things, though. And I know I could be making those posts myself. :-)
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Date: 2010-09-27 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amy-s1.livejournal.com
is there an option to just "ignore" a whole post and have it disappear? Seems like it would be a useful option, since we often tend to post 3x more posts to discuss the fact that something is over-posted. First planes, now 40 comments on groupons.

Date: 2010-09-27 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gruene.livejournal.com
fwiw, I don't want them. They're basically spam.

Date: 2010-09-27 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teko.livejournal.com
I find them extremely useful, and I don't especially want to check a separate forum for them. I see nothing spammish about limited-time deals aimed directly at the Davis Square community.

Date: 2010-09-27 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelithil.livejournal.com
There are six posts about groupons/buywithmes/whatever on the front page of d_s alone. I am, to be honest, a little annoyed. People, it's REALLY EASY to get this information: sign up for groupons/buywithme/whatever. You'll get all the relevant emails in your inbox. It'll be a glorious day for those of you who want to know about the coupons and it'll be a glorious day for those of us who don't want to see every coupon advertised on d_s. Win win.

Date: 2010-09-28 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com
that's really interesting since, not counting this one, there have only been 4 posts about voucher sites in the last week.

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Date: 2010-09-27 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delahk.livejournal.com
i'd like to see a community for the groupons. especially b/c a few groupon posts are for stuff that isn't even located in davis.

Date: 2010-09-28 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com
there have been 42 posts in the last week from 12 am monday morning to now.

On tuesday, there was one post about BuyWithMe (spike's)

On thursday, someone offered their expiring-that-day Johnny D's groupons, and then editing after he discovered that Johnny D's was not accepting them after all.

On Saturday, there was the post about Diva's groupon.

Today, someone was selling their leftover Brattle passes (which expire on 11/5. They happen to have gotten them through a groupon.

That does not count this post, which would be awfully meta.

So. 4/42, two of which were people offering vouchers they can't use, one of which was a note to let people know they couldn't use a voucher on that particular day.

So I wonder, are there actually too many posts about them, or is it that your perception, because you don't like them, that there are too many of them?

Date: 2010-09-28 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealestate.livejournal.com
The big difference between the deal ads (and they are ads -- that is the brilliance of the whole system, of course) and the other examples you give is that for most of those, there are no reliable alternative means for comm members to get that information. But plenty of us already receive all of the deal notifications by email and don't need to see them again. People who wanted to see them on LJ could still see them. I don't really understand why this upsets you so much personally.

As for the responses to "where would you like a groupon", obviously people are going to want to get the the things they like for less money. We're all at least a little selfish that way.
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